Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

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Development of ZEVO for OS X 10.9

Post by grahamperrin » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:39 am

ylluminate wrote:… nothing from GreenBytes on this end.


For readers new to this topic (and other topics that mention Mavericks or OS X 10.9), a reminder:

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Feedback to Apple

Post by grahamperrin » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:05 am

Let the past be the past.

If you'd like Apple to support ZFS in OS X 10.9:


Also, if you have not already done so, please sign the petition (OpenGL 4.3 and ZFS) at Change.org (discussion) – but don't treat this as a substitute for proper feedback to Apple.
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by rcfa » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:03 am

Since Apple these days allows discussion of prerelease OS related things in their developer forums, and since I figure a significant number of people interested and messing with ZFS are registered Apple developers, how about we move (part) of this discussion to Apple's developer forums, where the NDA do not apply in that specific way, since everyone is covered and it's discussion among NDA-ed parties?

At least that would allow properly talking about the issue that's the problem, it would allow members of that discussion to submit better feedback to Apple e.g. multiple "redundant" bug reports (=> higher priority at Apple fixing it), etc.
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by ilovezfs » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:10 am

rcfa wrote:Since Apple these days allows discussion of prerelease OS related things in their developer forums, and since I figure a significant number of people interested and messing with ZFS are registered Apple developers, how about we move (part) of this discussion to Apple's developer forums, where the NDA do not apply in that specific way, since everyone is covered and it's discussion among NDA-ed parties?

At least that would allow properly talking about the issue that's the problem, it would allow members of that discussion to submit better feedback to Apple e.g. multiple "redundant" bug reports (=> higher priority at Apple fixing it), etc.

There's nothing to talk about with respect to "the issue that's the problem." The source must be changed. The source is not available to anyone you will be talking to about "the issue that's the problem." We're screwed with respect to Mavericks and ZEVO until GreenBytes fixes it (won't happen), sells it and the new owner fixes it (could happen within the next century), or open sources it (unlikely).
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by davefilmsus » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:51 pm

I need a workable Zevo solution for Mavericks. This not a matter for debate. I paid for Zevo silver. I need a solution for Mavericks.

Please.
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by ilovezfs » Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:40 am

davefilmsus wrote:I need a workable Zevo solution for Mavericks. This not a matter for debate. I paid for Zevo silver. I need a solution for Mavericks.

Please.

osxzfs, also known as "MacZFS Prototype" or "MacZFS Experimental Generation" (because it will eventually replace "old" MacZFS), works on Mavericks already and can import ZEVO pools. And yes, to provide the proper fine print and caveats:

1. It's an alpha version.
2. It has not yet been designated as "stable."
3. Prudence dictates that you should not use an alpha version, not designated as stable, with ZEVO pools that have data you care about.

More info at
http://bitly.com/osxzfs
https://github.com/zfs-osx/zfs
IRC #mac-zfs
http://maczfs.org
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by ylluminate » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:25 am

@grahamperrin have you heard any more updates from GreenBytes as to who may be taking Zevo? I'm not in an easy position to simply push my ZFS volumes over to a new server yet and I really want to be in position for the 10.9 release. I wish, at the very least, they would add support for Mavericks until we have a new solution. Frankly I worked with Don long before open betas for the product and so I am quite dismayed by the handling of Zevo post acquisition and leaving us in some difficult positions.
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Compatibility with Mavericks, news from GreenBytes

Post by grahamperrin » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:04 am

Compatibility with Mavericks

I have the same wish – to use ZEVO with OS X 10.9 – but I don't expect this stage of development to be made by GreenBytes.

News from GreenBytes

viewtopic.php?p=5275#p5275 under editions and versions of ZEVO, community and open source
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by ylluminate » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:05 pm

Well I think we need to beg and plead at least for a minor update on Twitter. "@GetGreenBytes "
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by dirkZevo » Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:56 am

I just checked my backup disk against zfs on fedora running in virtualbox, and the files show up ok. ( not in latest openindiana )
So I am planning a solution that way. I currently boot from ssd, then mount my user data from a 1tb zfs disk.
So I will somehow share this data from fedora to mavericks. ( netatalk ? nfs ? )
Anyone thinking about doing this ? ( I don't need performance )
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