Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by ilovezfs » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:46 am

He is subject to a non-disclosure agreement. In any event, it is my understanding that, whatever bugs may or may not be in Mavericks itself, ZEVO kexts panic before loading and it is not due to a simple version mismatch. Someone with the ZEVO source code will have to fix it.
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Confidentiality agreements

Post by grahamperrin » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:55 am

kerjo: my report to Apple is subject to the usual confidentiality agreement.

ilovezfs wrote:… ZEVO kexts panic before loading …


That's not an aspect of my report.
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by ylluminate » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:39 am

Unfortunately Apple has seemingly not cared about Zevo reports I've issued in the past as far as I can tell from silence on tickets. I fear we may need another option quickly going towards a 10.9 release date as far as support goes since we're getting nothing from GreenBytes on this end.
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by grahamperrin » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:58 am

Silences can be frustrating, but not all silences should be construed as bad.
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by graxxor » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:10 am

I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure Greenbytes is working on the next version as we speak... They are NDAd up to the hilt and in any case are far too busy squashing bugs to talk to us.

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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by ilovezfs » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:54 am

graxxor wrote:I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure Greenbytes is working on the next version as we speak... They are NDAd up to the hilt and in any case are far too busy squashing bugs to talk to us.

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ylluminate was referring to Apple's silence, to which grahamperrin then replied. Somehow you construed grahamperrin's fortune cookie remark about Apple's silence into a comment about GreenBytes's silence, and then thought it useful to quote Voltaire to an Englishman.
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Silences

Post by grahamperrin » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:23 pm

My remark is about silences in general, in response to a post that described silences from Apple and silences (or "nothing") from GreenBytes.

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/yasha ... =121000024
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Re: Silences

Post by monkeyfoahead » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:35 am

grahamperrin wrote:My remark is about silences in general, in response to a post that described silences from Apple and silences (or "nothing") from GreenBytes.

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/yasha ... =121000024


While your propensity for a positive outlook is admirable, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you. I would argue that, generally, silences are bad. At best, they exemplify an inattentive customer relations department. At worst, they indicate no work being done at all. Both are undesirable, and the former is inexcusable.
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Re: Should Zevo work ok with Mavericks?

Post by ylluminate » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:02 pm

+1 re: silences. Coming from an engineering and project management background, silence has not ever once been a good thing. I can see why one might think it could be a good thing out the outset, but not once have I ever experienced a positive result from silence when it comes to products / services. I return to the good old adage: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." Good in social situations; bad in customer relations! :)
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Mixed feelings

Post by grahamperrin » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:32 am

My general optimism is mixed with occasional feelings of frustration.

I do wish to use ZEVO whilst testing Mavericks – my local home directory is on ZFS, I'll not move it to HFS Plus – so believe me, I am frustrated by the recent silence. But it's not a showstopper – I simply use Mountain Lion for my everyday work.

Historically, in the early days of Ten's Complement there was more openness and communication. Unfortunately that openness was not without pitfalls; it did not dissuade people from eventually finding things to complain about and (to my mind) some of the loudest complaints were grossly unfair.

Now during this transition period there is, I guess, at least the question of copyright (Delphix, Nexenta Systems, Inc. …) … and so on. I really don't know.

Somewhere between the two extremes – open communication, silence – there must be a happy medium. I see that moderators (I'm not one) continue to watch this forum, so let's see whether we can get a status update from GreenBytes – but I should not expect the post to appear in this topic, which is (or should be):

  • Mavericks-specific.
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