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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by ilovezfs » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:33 pm

emory wrote:ZFS-on-OS-X is a niche business of a niche business, but there are a lot of professionals that just aren't at all aware of it. With the appropriate Product Manager, it could be a very popular product.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure this is true. On the server side, Apple has essentially completely ceded the market, with OS X Server targeted primarily at Mac App Store and iOS App Store developers.

Small businesses and enterprises are much more likely to use Windows or Linux for their servers. If they want to ensure data integrity on their Windows servers, they can use ReFS. If they want to ensure data integrity on their Linux servers, they can use ZFS on Linux or Btrfs. Expensive Apple hardware for servers is just not all that common, especially now that XServes are gone and an xMac mini Server is $1295, not including the Mac Mini: http://www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacminiserver.html

So who are these "professionals" that you're talking about? Companies who would want workers using Mac client machines to keep their home directory on ZFS? Freelance graphic designers, photographers, etc. working on personal Mac Pros at home?
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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by grahamperrin » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:15 am

ilovezfs wrote:... GreenBytes did wait for it to break ...


Please, let's put this in context. 1.1 was the first release by GreenBytes. Day one.

Yes, there was the prior private report of an incompatibility with Mountain Lion, but that report was not to GreenBytes.

The wait? A possible scenario:

  1. GreenBytes wanted 1.1 to receive broad public testing for one week, 15th--22nd September, to see what other bug reports and enhancement requests were received -- from users of all three operating systems -- whilst developing towards 1.1.1
  2. 1.1.1 was built on 23rd September (this is certain)
  3. 1.1.1 was tested internally for two days
  4. 1.1.1 was released on 26th September.

Just a guess. But if true, I can't view that approach as careless.
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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by emory » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:46 pm

ilovezfs wrote:So who are these "professionals" that you're talking about? Companies who would want workers using Mac client machines to keep their home directory on ZFS? Freelance graphic designers, photographers, etc. working on personal Mac Pros at home?


Not necessarily personal Mac Pros at home, but creative artists that work with music, video and photography among other things, yes. There are a lot of creative shops that use commodity NAS appliances or a "sur-vur" that is essentially computers that were replaced and repurposed or simple shares peer to peer. Or worse, Drobos.
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Transitioning ZEVO away from GreenBytes

Post by grahamperrin » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:33 pm

ilovezfs wrote:

… silent treatment.


There were also periods of silence, or near-silence:

  • of some months, before the mid-2012 announcements of the transition of ZEVO to GreenBytes
  • of some weeks, after the 2012-07-26 announcement of the 2012-09-15 milestone …
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Re: Transitioning ZEVO away from GreenBytes

Post by ilovezfs » Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:14 am

grahamperrin wrote:ilovezfs wrote:

… silent treatment.


There were also periods of silence, or near-silence:

  • of some months, before the mid-2012 announcements of the transition of ZEVO to GreenBytes
  • of some weeks, after the 2012-07-26 announcement of the 2012-09-15 milestone …

Objection, your honor. Relevance?
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Silence, noise and dates

Post by grahamperrin » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:08 am

Order in the courtroom! The honourable gentlemen will please be seated.

Relevance … the periods of silence were and are frustrating but:

  • something good came
  • I'm confident that something good will come.

Long before the transition to GreenBytes there was noise, but that noise included frustration around dates.

After the transition from GreenBytes there may be new frustrations.

I do wish for more frequent announcements by GreenBytes, but I don't get upset when dates slip or when silences are extended …
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Re: Silence, noise and dates

Post by ilovezfs » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:28 am

grahamperrin wrote:Order in the courtroom! The honourable gentlemen will please be seated.

Relevance … the periods of silence were and are frustrating but:

  • something good came
  • I'm confident that something good will come.

Long before the transition to GreenBytes there was noise, but that noise included frustration around dates.

After the transition from GreenBytes there may be new frustrations.

I do wish for more frequent announcements by GreenBytes, but I don't get upset when dates slip or when silences are extended …

Abused spouse, much?
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Re: Silence, noise and dates

Post by monkeyfoahead » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:30 am

grahamperrin wrote:Order in the courtroom! The honourable gentlemen will please be seated.

Relevance … the periods of silence were and are frustrating but:

  • something good came
  • I'm confident that something good will come.

Long before the transition to GreenBytes there was noise, but that noise included frustration around dates.

After the transition from GreenBytes there may be new frustrations.

I do wish for more frequent announcements by GreenBytes, but I don't get upset when dates slip or when silences are extended …


I do. How hard is it to make a post, now and then?
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