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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by grahamperrin » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:49 am

monkeyfoahead wrote:… This whole …


Included significant fixes for reproducible kernel panics with Mountain Lion less than two weeks after the first release, which made my subsequent experience with ZEVO on Mountain Lion more than acceptable.

I look primarily at the software; at its quality, usability and depth of integration with the operating system. YMMV.
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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by ilovezfs » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:01 am

grahamperrin wrote:
monkeyfoahead wrote:… This whole …

Included significant fixes for reproducible kernel panics with Mountain Lion less than two weeks after the first release, which made my subsequent experience with ZEVO on Mountain Lion more than acceptable.

Apple makes Developer Previews available long before actual release. No Mac software company has an excuse for not having a tested, compatible version ready to go as soon as the new OS is released, if not sooner. This is like paying your taxes or feeding your children. It's not praiseworthy. It's expected. If this is the best compliment we can dream up, that is very telling. Similarly, fixing critical bugs immediately is mandatory not anything to write home about.
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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by grahamperrin » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:03 am

Indeed, I did get what I expected. And I did say thanks at the time because development of software such as ZEVO is way, way beyond anything I can do.

It's not intended to be the best compliment. The best compliments are, to my eye, spread across other other topics. As I said elsewhere,

> … I encourage people to think constructively and positively …
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Post by ilovezfs » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:47 am

grahamperrin wrote:development of software such as ZEVO is way, way beyond anything I can do.

Most people cannot engineer an airplane, but that doesn't mean they can't have a laundry list of legitimate concerns about how an airline treats them as customers. Pointing out your gratefulness to the engineers that they built a nice plane that didn't fall out of the sky and that you could not have built such a plane totally misses the point.

grahamperrin wrote:The best compliments are, to my eye, spread across other other topics.

Again, you're talking about the product itself, not GreenBytes's handling of its relationship with its users.

grahamperrin wrote:I encourage people to think constructively and positively.

Where's the fun in that? But seriously, positive and constructive at this point is very simple: the code, please.

And remember we're talking about the same people who posted this:
https://twitter.com/GetGreenBytes/statu ... 1815794689
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Post by monkeyfoahead » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:12 am

I hate to "me too" again but I agree with ilovezfs completely. I am certain that they will not release the code for free. I can only hope that whoever buys it will do so quickly. Anyone find out the asking price?
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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by grahamperrin » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:20 pm

monkeyfoahead wrote:… release the code for free. … hope that whoever buys it will do so quickly. …


+1
and for what it's worth, that would please me most – if it's acceptable to both buyer and seller.

Still, amongst the possibilities, a buyer may prefer to both:

  • open some of the source, enough to be of tangible benefit to the open source community
  • keep some of the source code closed, for as long as they see fit.

That person or organisation might:

  • have great technical skills for open and private collaborative development of both code sets
  • be less interested in day-to-day communications with end users.

Now if I were that prospective buyer – reading this topic – I'd ask myself whether the community of users can remain positive and mutually supportive when things get tough. Looking back over the past few months, I reckon that the mutual support has been overwhelmingly positive; it would be disheartening to see things go downhill now.

For whatever reason or set of reasons, Don's no longer a developer with GreenBytes. Organisations change, circumstances change, goals shift, opportunities arise, the world turns. We can express our wishes and disappointments, but we simply can't control those changes. We're the masters of our own lives but not of other individuals.

Yes, I'd like to hear more from people at GreenBytes. Whilst this is a technical forum, at this time their contributions need not be technical (in relation to ZFS). But I never lose sight of the fact that I enjoy using ZEVO at zero cost, and it's simply the fullest-featured approach to ZFS for local storage on a Mac.
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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by ilovezfs » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:32 pm

grahamperrin wrote:Now if I were that prospective buyer – reading this topic – I'd ask myself whether the community of users can remain positive and mutually supportive when things get tough. Looking back over the past few months, I reckon that the mutual support has been overwhelmingly positive; it would be disheartening to see things go downhill now.

Ah yes, as I do my discounted cash flow analysis to assess the value of the asset, I must increase the discount factor to account for signs of unsupportive behavior in the forum. Please.
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Post by ilovezfs » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:35 pm

monkeyfoahead wrote:Anyone find out the asking price?

I bid one bitcoin. Do I hear two?
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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by grahamperrin » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:48 pm

From me, anything but bitcoins :-)

And honestly, a positive vibe from the user base can make a big incentive to some types of organisation. I can't stress this enough. There's cash to consider, yes, there's openness, there are a million and one things but there's got to be feel-good.

I'm seasoned enough to take (and enjoy) some friendly mockery … keep it coming … no amount of banter will sway me from an optimistic outlook to this  :D
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Re: Zevo for sale

Post by monkeyfoahead » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:57 pm

ilovezfs wrote:
grahamperrin wrote:Now if I were that prospective buyer – reading this topic – I'd ask myself whether the community of users can remain positive and mutually supportive when things get tough. Looking back over the past few months, I reckon that the mutual support has been overwhelmingly positive; it would be disheartening to see things go downhill now.

Ah yes, as I do my discounted cash flow analysis to assess the value of the asset, I must increase the discount factor to account for signs of unsupportive behavior in the forum. Please.


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