Final Cut X not working ?

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Final Cut X not working ?

Post by jollyjinx » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:12 am

I'm new to Final Cut X , but it seems to me that FinalCut is the first program I've encountered that seems to be not compatible with ZFS . In the Project library I only see my mounted sparse bundles, so I presume they only show HFS volumes there.
If I create a project on a HFS volume and then move it to a ZFS backed filesystem I cannot open the Project in FCX.

Does anybody know a solution ?

Patrick aka Jolly
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Re: Final Cut X not working ?

Post by jollyjinx » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:07 am

Seems that FCP X does not support anything else but HFS+. The only way around is to create a sparse bundle and use that as FCPX project disk.
FCPX only allows for data to be on external disks ( afp, smb, nfs, exfax, zfs, .. ), but not for the project.

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Re: Final Cut X not working ?

Post by grahamperrin » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:46 pm

Quick check: is the ZFS file system case sensitive, or insensitive?
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Re: Final Cut X not working ?

Post by jollyjinx » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:19 am

Case sensitivy does not matter. It's that FCP first does not show up drives that are HFS+ and second if you create a Project on a HFS disk and copy it over to zfs and link to it FCP will complain that the project is broken when you try to open it.
It looks like FCP requires versions on the filesystem to be supported.
A workaround is to create a sparse bundle on a ZFS disk to have data somewhat safe for FCP projects.
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Re: Final Cut X not working ?

Post by NakkiNyan » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:28 pm

That could still be caused by case sensitivity. If FCP looks for "MyFile" and ZFS only shows "myfile" it will come back as broken. Some Adobe products are the same way, Illustrator was a known issue on MacZFS since it didn't have an insensitive option available. Expect issues with apps on ZFS and their save files; it could be file format, case sensitivity, metadata, or any number of other things that are either not in ZFS pr are different.
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Re: Final Cut X not working ?

Post by jollyjinx » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:00 pm

I was not specific enough. When I wrote "Case sensitivy does not matter" I meant that I've tried that already.
As FCP specifically does only show up HFS+ volumes and I found multiple people having problems with it on the net as well as I found now a note from Apple on the subject suggesting the solution I've already found by using a sparsebundle.
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Re: Final Cut X not working ?

Post by grahamperrin » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:52 pm

Jolly, thanks for all of this.

Please, which version and build of Final Cut X? And do you have handy the URL of the Apple advice?

(I'll compile a shortlist of apps that may have issues with ZEVO.)
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Re: Final Cut X not working ?

Post by chriswayg » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:46 am

jollyjinx wrote:Seems that FCP X does not support anything else but HFS+. The only way around is to create a sparse bundle and use that as FCPX project disk.
FCPX only allows for data to be on external disks ( afp, smb, nfs, exfax, zfs, .. ), but not for the project.

This was one of the issues, that concerned me when moving data to zfs. When importing media into FCPX, the zfs drive is correctly recognized as a source by FCP-X. But projects and events do not show up, if stored on a zfs disk.

The way I worked around it is by using an image files stored on the zfs volume (as described here: http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/fc ... artin.html ) Apart from being zfs compatible, this has a number of advantages, like being able to hide or archive projects.

Now I'm not that familiar with using sparse images/bundles, especially in regards to zfs. Disk utility gives two choices when creating expanding disk images (apart from the .dmg fixed size images).

* sparse disk image (one big, expanding file, resizable)
* sparse bundle disk image (lots of 8MB files in a package, expanding package, resizable)

I tried them in FCP-X and they seem to work in the same way. What are the advantages/disadvantages in regards to ZFS, relating to data safety and performance. Which one is the better fit with ZFS? Sparse image or sparse bundle?

Edit: I found a thread on zfs-macos which relates to the question regarding data integrity and sparse bundles: 'Can ZFS scrub/heal HFS+ sparsebundles at the file-band level': https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgr ... ltRG_5wAeg
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Re: Final Cut X not working ?

Post by grahamperrin » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:30 am

Not specific to any app that requires JHFS+, I reckon this deserves a topic:

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Re: Final Cut X not working ?

Post by hendrst1 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:55 pm

chriswayg wrote:
jollyjinx wrote:Seems that FCP X does not support anything else but HFS+. The only way around is to create a sparse bundle and use that as FCPX project disk.
FCPX only allows for data to be on external disks ( afp, smb, nfs, exfax, zfs, .. ), but not for the project.

This was one of the issues, that concerned me when moving data to zfs. When importing media into FCPX, the zfs drive is correctly recognized as a source by FCP-X. But projects and events do not show up, if stored on a zfs disk.


I am using FCP X Pro with all events, projects everything on ZFS. No issues at all;everythig shows up. I just connected the ZFS pool using add a SAN location under the file menu.
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