What happened to regular updates?

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Post by grahamperrin » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:58 am

NakkiNyan wrote:… kernel panic …


search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=+panic&author_id=1001 finds only this topic.

Do you have a link to a topic in the troubleshooting area?
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Post by NakkiNyan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:46 pm

grahamperrin wrote:Do you have a link to a topic in the troubleshooting area?

There is always your wish list from last month.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=318&p=4791&hilit=reconnect#p4791

or how about your favorite?
viewtopic.php?t=2097

or a search for the "type 14=page fault" seeing as you know that is what you get when things are "unmounted incorrectly" and attempt to remount causing a panic.
search.php?keywords=type+14%3Dpage+fault&fid[0]=4

that you love reposting.
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&author_id=73

grahamperrin wrote:http://zevo.getgreenbytes.com/forum/search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=+panic&author_id=1001 finds only this topic.

I don't post something already posted so how about you search correctly so you get 20 pages of results:
search.php?keywords=kernel+panic&fid[0]=7
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Post by grahamperrin » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:22 pm

Re: the quoted text (kernel panic) I meant, just the kernel panic that you outlined in your previous post. No mention of eject there, so viewtopic.php?t=2097 seems to not match your case.
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Re: What happened to regular updates?

Post by NakkiNyan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:37 pm

When your power goes and shuts down an external enclosure nothing is unmounted or ejected properly while the computer is running; it is the exact same issue, my comment still stands. I can certainly make yet another post about a kernel panic due to losing connection to disks for yet another reason if you wish to boost your ego and increases your post count.

Also: I was answering ilovezfs's question about what we could possibly want. I, and others I am sure, want some fixes for issues that have been brought up for the past nine months since the 1.1.1 update. This ZFS implementation needs serious work just like the previous one and unfortunately Don has vanished again, I hope this is not yet another dead project. My hope is we just got lucky and he vanished to go to Apple again to integrate it into 10.9.
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Post by grahamperrin » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:29 am

NakkiNyan wrote:When your power goes and shuts down an external enclosure nothing is unmounted or ejected properly while the computer is running …


Noted with thanks (focused topics are easier to follow): Kernel Panic after enclosure loses and regains power

I doubt that it's the same issue but for as long as you can't be polite, I'll not assist. Please try to stay focused on technical issues without personal attacks.
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Post by NakkiNyan » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:21 am

We have just a few more days before WWDC2013 begins (June 10-14), maybe we will find out a new file system is coming in 10.9 and know the reason why Don vanished again, to make it work. Or get even luckier and finally get the closed beta release of 10.9 on the dev network.

grahamperrin wrote:Please try to stay focused on technical issues without personal attacks.

I honestly see you as the one who likes making off-handed personal attacks, I just don't bother hiding mine as it is not worth while. As soon as you stop attacking posts with comments that amount to "did you bother looking int it first" I will make sure I do.
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Post by ilovezfs » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:04 am

NakkiNyan wrote:We have just a few more days before WWDC2013 begins (June 10-14), maybe we will find out a new file system is coming in 10.9 and know the reason why Don vanished again, to make it work. Or get even luckier and finally get the closed beta release of 10.9 on the dev network.

I put the probability of a new filesystem at about 1%.

My money is on more blather about how Apple will make OS X more like iOS. I have trouble imagining a ZFS like filesystem being their plan for iOS, and so by extension I have trouble believing it is their plan for OS X.
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Re: What happened to regular updates?

Post by NakkiNyan » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:17 am

I can see it, just not as a replacement for HFS+ like we really want, it is not like it is not their first attempt any way. We should see OSX pushed heavy though with 10.9 already out there surfing the net as seen on MacRumors. Hopefully with a "and you can start testing your apps now" comment from Cook (provided you have a paid dev account -.-).

I still don't see how it is more like iOS either, sure we have some stuff from iOS but it is stuff that was a given any way, notification center, easier app access, and access to a couple services. You are right that they will play it off as merging the two...
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Re: What happened to regular updates?

Post by ilovezfs » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:00 am

NakkiNyan wrote:I still don't see how it is more like iOS either, sure we have some stuff from iOS but it is stuff that was a given any way, notification center, easier app access, and access to a couple services. You are right that they will play it off as merging the two...

They've actually consolidated the two teams under a single leader (former head of OS X) so I do anticipate more substantive merging, unfortunately. To me it's more about what we're *not* getting. When was the last time we got a significant new OS X feature like Spotlight?
Instead we get things like
- Gatekeeper (iOS code signing)
- Mac App Store with sandboxing (iOS security model, which made apps less functional)
- Launchpad (out of place Springboard clone)
- new "document architecture" to share files interchangeably with iOS in monolithic unorganized app specific folders
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I hate generic Re headings so I made this one instead

Post by NakkiNyan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:14 am

I think a big issue is not knowing what people want past the online begging for things like the AppStore, Notification Center, Notes, Facetime, etc... The stuff I want is all under the hood and seriously can't think of any major, visible, built in feature I would like. I can only think of one visible thing, not usability/app/whatever, UI options to at least pick a darker theme along the lines of the CS6 apps, bright screens for 14 hours a day is hard on the eyes... Like this site...

I still think spotlight is pretty much useless, Alfred and others kick its butt. And I guess I am the only one who likes launchpad since I have a trackpad -.-
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