zfs-discuss archives confusion, and beyond

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zfs-discuss archives confusion, and beyond

Post by grahamperrin » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:26 am

Seeking a focus for platform-agnostic sources of information …

Retrospective: confusion

zfs-discuss at osdir.com doesn't list what I seek.

zfs-discuss at thr3ads.net seems better, albeit lacking the final weeks before the end-of-life (EOL) of the zfs-discuss list.

zfs-discuss at The Mail Archive includes a last call (2013-03-24) that's not in the thr3ads.net archive:


A February 2013 thread zfs-discuss mailing list & opensolaris EOL (highlight, 2013-03-17) is certainly missing from the osdir.com area for that period.

Is the osdir.com archive untrustworthy? Or was there another zfs-discuss list?

Now and in the future

There's http://java.net/projects/solaris-zfs/li ... ss/archive (an archive of zfs-discuss for Oracle Solaris ZFS in the java.net area), which can't include the zfs-discuss archive(s) as we know it. Its first thread began yesterday.

There's the more established and platform-agnostic illumos-zfs list:

Everything ZFS running or developing on illumos-based distributions, as well as interaction with FreeBSD and Linux (ZoL) activists. Any sensible ZFS-related discussion and questions are welcome and taken seriously.


http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos ... ling+Lists for illumos mailing lists.

zfs-macos Google Group is for MacZFS, but that's not agnostic. And the three lists for ZFS on Linux, and so on. Oh I just realised … there's another zfs-discuss that's primarily a Google Group. So maybe osdir.com is archiving the group/list for LInux.

If we already had two zfs-discuss lists, then I'm disappointed that Oracle didn't take that into account before creating a third with the same name.

Web search perspective, anyone? Whisky Tango Foxtrot.

So. To which of the following lists are orphans (from the original zfs-discuss list) most likely to jump ship?

  1. zfs@lists.illumos.org (begun in 2011)
  2. zfs-discuss@zfsonlinux.org (Google Groups makes it difficult to see when it began)
  3. zfs-discuss@solaris-zfs.java.net (begun yesterday)
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Re: zfs-discuss archives confusion, and beyond

Post by raattgift » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:34 am

(a) for development-oriented conversations, which were common on the recently wound down list. The "help!" threads will probably wind up on (c) and/or dispersed to freebsd-centric [ http://forums.freebsd.org/forumdisplay.php?f=48 ], linux-centric, and simlilar lists/forums analogous to this one.

Gmane has good archives of the list :

http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.zfs
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Re: zfs-discuss archives confusion, and beyond

Post by grahamperrin » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:19 pm

grahamperrin wrote:… If we already had two zfs-discuss lists, then I'm disappointed that Oracle didn't take that into account before creating a third with the same name.

Web search perspective, anyone? Whisky Tango Foxtrot.


There was another [zfs-discuss] list – the archived list for the Mac community.

Drafted as a possible OpenZFS FAQ:

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